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From behind the modem wire... - Twisted Vision
01:41 pm July 21st, 2005
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I cannot stand it when people just ignore facts so that something suits their own purposes better. I'm not sure if it was done with intent here or just a lack of proper research, but it's happened all the same.
Through various mailing lists that I'm on I've received word about (what seems to be) a shocking story in Iran. Two boys, aged 16 and 18 have been executed for being gay. They were given 228 lashes before they were executed. Seems like an atrocity, right? Well it would be, if it were true. However, despite this version of events being spread around far and wide, a few minutes with Google News quickly reveals that in fact they were executed for abducting and raping a 13-yr old boy at knife point. While I'm okay with people saying that they oppose the execution of minors or execution in general, I'm pretty angry that people are spreading around that they were executed for no good reason. Although it may seem harsh to say this, rape of a child occurs to me as one of the better reasons to execute someone. Having said that, I don't support execution in general, but rapists are routinely executed in Iran so it doesn't even occur to me as being especially news-worthy.

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Thread started by Ryan
bcp From: [info]bcp Date: July 21st, 2005 09:08 am (UTC) (Link)
Wouldn't they have been executed anyway for being gay?
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sea_wolf From: [info]sea_wolf Date: July 21st, 2005 09:20 am (UTC) (Link)
Impossible to say, I've dug up several cases of people being executed in Iran when they've been charged with homosexuality IN ADDITION to other serious offences, such as abduction, rape and murder. But I can't locate a case where someone has been executed soley for a homosexuality conviction.
In any event, that's not what happened, so it makes no sense to speculate on "what if" situations.
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bcp From: [info]bcp Date: July 21st, 2005 10:20 am (UTC) (Link)
You're assuming of course that the rape charges weren't specious.
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sea_wolf From: [info]sea_wolf Date: July 21st, 2005 02:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
Given Iran's justice system it's quite possible, but no one is suggesting that, they're simply ignoring them altogether. It's one thing to claim that and quite another to just pretend it doesn't exist. The rape charges are there and they're part and parcel of this. The facts are that they were executed for rape, not for homosexuality, even though they were also found guilty of that.
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From: [info]apatheia_jane Date: August 29th, 2005 09:02 am (UTC) (Link)
hello. I only just realised you friended me. Hello.

This one time, at queer camp Saturday, this came up. I said that it was actually for rape of a minor, & the person just said, well, these days, it's not as we can trust the media. We all know they were really executed because they were gay & Iran is full of homophobes & it's all part of the heterocapitalist conspiracy!

oh dear.
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sea_wolf From: [info]sea_wolf Date: August 29th, 2005 02:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
Some people are absolutely determined to believe that it's all a great conspiracy to oppress them forever I guess.
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